For the 3 peeps who care, how bad is it? I'm not expecting anything so won't be disappointed.

On the motherboards I've seen an unusual low number of the usual suck-up posts with compliments. I saw 2 guys basically saying that the explorer zone is fun and beautiful. Negative points are an abundance of invisible walls and lack of fast travel options.

I couldn't find anything on the quests, the XP and the difficulty. How's the monster placement: are we again looking at massive sacks of HP put up in nicely copy-pasted groups of 8 each 25 feet apart?

Let the bashing commence.

I've run the quests 3 times on r10 so far. I really like them. None of them are too annoying, they're pretty straightforward. Some of the bosses/champs can smack. Overall it's pretty great. I like it .

Gunga wrote on Jun 24^th, 2022 at 1:02pm:



I pugged r10s last night. Was a little messy, but ok.

Curious how you felt r10 was tuned in terms of DCs (if applicable) and/or how hard mobs hit melee.

Gunga wrote on Jun 24^th, 2022 at 5:19pm:



That's kinda what I thought. Was your toon legendary capped at the time?

I feel like it's terrible that you're able to pug R10 and go through it easily first time. After the stat shrink update, everything seems too easy. Pugs are easily doing R6+ in epics. SSG needs to streamline the difficulty a bit more.

Unfortunately, I don't have a really good solution as to how to increase the difficulty. One suggestion could be, have a set of buffs from aid to resist energy to + to saves to more hp to deathward, etc. For each skull, have the each mob get a random buff from the buff set. So on R3, one mob could have lightning resist x, +5% damage and true seeing, while another mob could have deathward, 5% dodge and spell resist X.

Run the last quest without removing curses and that's all the extra difficulty you'll need. Or, go full party of casters no healer. Or, go five melees one healer.

There will be cakes.

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Thats because most of the pugs these days are veterans with reaper wings running meta caster builds and they are loaded with the perfect raid gear and filis.

I once pugged r6 sharn with a party of 5, two of whom were underleveled (they insisted they could handle it) and everyone was melee or ranged. Every quest took twice as long, the underleveled guys died 6+ times per quest and it was just a massive clusterfuck. I suggested we drop down to r4 at least but one of the guys who kept dying a lot insisted we stay on r6 

Dread is ok.

Some of the quests are charming.

"The Trouble with Tarpits" could be deleted from the game for all I care.

Did last quest on r8 with two curses up. IMO the sword/ghost dot is the only issue.

Bullywugs are fun.

WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jun 25^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:


Shut up, retard. Was water works hard back in your day? Get the fuck outta here.

Head-Meat wrote on Jun 26^th, 2022 at 1:15am:


That's the issue. Where is there room for growth? As people get stronger, learn the quests better, etc, if R10 is already fairly doable, it will become easier, and for the top players, where is there challenge?

Gunga wrote on Jun 26^th, 2022 at 11:43am:



I’m somewhere in between.

I usually run a meta or near-meta build, and I love the discord resources. TBH, when we ran the r10s, I had most of the kills because I’m running 95% optimal gear on a maxed toon on a mob-melting build. (Btw, I only have 66ish reaper points. So not even wings yet) But I’m legit mediocre at best as a player. Like I’m B- level at best. Probably C+. I ran with one your guildies this morning, Gunga, running the same build. He made me look like I just walked out of Korthos. TBF, a lot of that is practice and quest knowledge. The fact that he flew through Isle quests so fast tells me he plays a metric ton. Probably ran it on lama given just how Zerg he was.

Ok I lost my point. My point is that my mediocre butt was leading kills on r10 in a short-manned decent group. That tells me that r10 could be tuned up some. I mean people still die. It’s very easy to get one-shot. But, I could see the argument it’s a touch easy. Alternatively, maybe Ice Druids are just too good atm. Maybe a little of both. It’ll only get a little easier. I wasn’t capped (32) yet, and I think some of the new gear will make the build even a bit better.

That being said, I do have a nearly maxxed toon, and I’ve been playing over a decade. So, maybe it’s not fair to judge r10s on me. It would be extremely difficult for new players. Probably impossible.

Actually, that would be a fun LD challenge. First life toons with low reaper points but solid gear. How would you fair in r10s? I imagine skill and quest knowledge would make you 85% as effective, but it would still be fun to watch. Take away raid gear for next-level challenge.

Anyway, I guess the argument is dumb. R10s are fun, and even good groups get thrashed on certain fights. So, who cares? We’re playing a damn game.

Head-Meat wrote on Jun 26^th, 2022 at 1:47pm:


You're a good player. We ran dailies once and you ate my lunch on either a fury fighter or wolf, but I was on an extremely tweaked push raid build built to survive and for single target. To your point about quest knowledge, you knew the quests, could get to the mob first with way more strike through than I did, killing more when you got there.



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I don't disagree, I'd like to see it ramped up a touch. The problem with SSI dialing in is that they're terrible at it. THTH R1 can't be touched by 95% of the player base.

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That's the point of DDO, for me. It continues to reward long-term commitment.

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Noted, though we usually reserve this challenge for hard-core. More of us have become pretty competitive with it in recent seasons. It's a fun change of pace. Epic has a first lifer from hardcore that can heal r10 push raids.

Head-Meat wrote on Jun 26^th, 2022 at 4:33pm:


You were on Kashil.

It was probably your bear; I remember the strike trough - you were wrecking mobs.