Hardcore_Girl wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 4:45am:


14" screen laptops ugh just... YUCK. There are worse ways to ruin your sight i suppose.

Bet that 3080 is 100W base with boost up to 120W. 3080 in name only.

16" screen laptops like Asus Zephyrus M16 and Legion 5 Pro are the best imho.

I'd even vote for latest HP omen 17 with mechanical keyboard but the layout with macro keys just isnt my jam.


Anyway, back to your point with DDO graphics. Try downloading "High Resolution Textures" via official launcher and see if it helps a bit.

Meh, I grew up on Genesis, N64, Gamecube, and PS2 games, so DDO looks fine to me. I don't think anyone who really cares a whole lot about graphics is still playing DDO. It's a 2006 game and since Turbine can't be assed to fix basic bugs, I doubt they have the wherewithal to give the game a visual overhaul.

DDO looks bad because they have bad designers.  My present theory is they've got exactly one person who knows their ass from a hole in the ground design wise and that person is working on new races and monsters.

Gnomes looked amazing, a lot of the new monsters they've rolled out have looked great.  "It's a 15 year old game" is a bullshit cop-out.  RL is on the same engine and looks great.  The problem is everything since (outside of maybe the Feywild wilderness) are being designed by some untrained, no talent hack throwing together skins on ms paint.  The insides of the new quests in the Saltmarsh are pure ass and not half as good as some of the earliest quests.

tl;dr - don't blame the age of the game, blame their hiring practices or the fact they fired the most qualified members of their team years ago.

noamineo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 1:01pm:


You're an idiot and no one cares what you think.

liljiggy wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 3:30pm:

Why not both? I maintain that 1) there's only so much you can do doll up a 2006 game and 2) even if such methods exist, Turbine probably can't be assed to do so. (As I mentioned previously.)

noamineo wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 3:45pm:

Like what? The early-mid 2000s was probably one of the more awkward phases in gaming, if we're just talking graphically. 2D sprite graphics peaked in the mid 90s as exemplified by Genesis/SNES classics like Chrono Trigger, Shining Force 2, the Lufia games, etc. (I guess GBA games sort of count too: Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, and so forth.) That style is almost universally looked upon fondly, to the point that countless indie developers are returning to the "retraux" pixel-art style with games like Wargroove, Into the Breach, Chroma Squad, Shovel Knight, SacriFire, and many others.

But then the first 3D consoles came out in the late 90s and everything looked horrible. I can't take seriously anyone who claims that FF7 still looks great today. It doesn't. It looks godawful. And sure, 3D did look better in the mid-2000s than it did in the late-90s... yet, even so, I'm not seeing any nostalgia from people saying "omg GTA 4 was beautiful, we need more games that look like it!" Hell, even some of the better looking games like Wind Waker, FF10, or Resident Evil 4 look dated by modern standards. People would rather play the "HD" versions of them. There's no urgent demand for ANYONE to create more games with the graphical style of that era.

All that comes to say: no, I don't think DDO looks markedly shittier than other games of its time. Could it benefit from a HD remaster? Probably, but I believe the game has much more pressing issues regardless. And personally, I don't really care, because graphics are one of the least important things to me in any game.

Snitchella was accepted as an idiot.

But as a rat not so much.

Fuckwad. You try making something look good with a maximum of 256MB at your disposal.

At non retards in the thread:
The textureing and work was never state of the art or even decent. Not ever.

The engine is pathetically bad in terms of features when compared to anything modern. There is no GI, there is no shadow casting, there are no reflections...
Given those parameters, a fucking potato can run something that looks really, really good (baked shadow maps) at 144fps/htz. IF you have half decent artists working.

Texture load (memory req.) Cannot be increased past 3GB when you cater to idiots who run the game on a 386. So the "quality" of the textures is also low.
But don't worry, the quality of their work file is shit to begin with even at 8k res - no amount of fucking magic will ever fix it. Heck, they probably work on a 386 themselves 😆.

To answer HcG, no they won't.
They would need to create a new backwards compatible engine for a game that has been dead at least 6 years - by their own doing.
They have no interest in making things appealing to anyone, they have interest in beating the dead horse into oblivion and milk the idiots who still pay $ to play.

You can probably write to the parent company voicing your concerns, they are far more likely to appriciate feedback and pull their name off this shit show...

liljiggy wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:44pm:

liljiggy wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:44pm:


Are you a moron or are you a moron? Those are PS1 / PS2 even ps3 titles. You may want to look up how much memory they use before looking like even more of an idiot than you currently do.

Think N64 / Sega genesis / supernintendo
That is where DDO essentially is.

I doubt you can even consider it PS1 level.
Though I guess I could grab the physical box off the shelf and tell you the exact specs they originally claimed on it. Which is probably 3x more than what it actually used to use in the end.
Does it matter? Not one bit.
It's always looked like shit as I said multiple times.

Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 5:38am:


I did download high resolution textures but still something is amiss in IoD content - I don't know what it is but it looks crap.

DDO has the highest revenue/player in SSG. What those fuckers are doing with all the money they get God only knows.

Hardcore_Girl wrote on Jul 12^th, 2022 at 4:48am:


That would require a whole new engine at that point. DDO 2.0 with up-to-date graphics, but that aint gonna happen.

Given how poorly optimized the current public areas/wildernesses/quests/other shit is, you will experience client lag (a.k.a FPS drops) even with the newest GPUs.
Adjusting some video settings down helps a little bit.

Poor optimization is 100% a dev skill issue.

Anothersock wrote on Jul 11^th, 2022 at 7:25pm:


*shrug* Note I'm not defending SSG... just pointing the facts.

The engine is the Asheron's Call engine with a few tweaks, it's also the one used in LoTRO. ( and manybe we will get in DDO the overahaul promised in LoTRO in that domian in the AG7 investment slides since in the past what one game got in upgrade the other one got it too ).

As for the textures and stuff... the DAT file format is [b]also[/i] the same as the AC one, and it has limitations.
( sequencial seek for a String Table DID, clukny index, issues with size, and the reindexing function has been removed years ago, so there's lots of useless shit here and there in the file after a while ( since changing something in a texture or anything else, means using a new String Table DID... and the old one is still there unused )