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u55 DC Cleric Gear Set-up
Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:31am
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Hey ya'll, am looking for feedback on this gear set-up. I don't have spell pen lives on this toon but I have all the Epic PLs. No quality spell focus in my current set up. I like the Winter belt a lot so the Black Satin is out. I suppose I could work in Spinneret if I got a +1 reaper DC bonus on the piggie. My goggles are basically just giving 1 DC but I don't see a better use for the slot. Another thing I wish I wasn't missing is Insightful Devotion. I suppose I could use goggles for that as a swap, or make a trinket with it. There's probably some world where I take off the Slavelords slot and run Sunstones. I suppose that would be the fix to get the quality 2 DC in, but perma-slotting spell absorb is just nice QOL. Not sure how to keep the 4 piece winter set though if Black Satin comes on. (I guess a crappy ring?). I suppose swapping artifact to ring and then putting on winter bracers would give a slightly higher vitality value. If I wanted to support light damage it seems like dropping down to 2 piece Winter is the right move---put on a Crest of St. Markus. This would also solve the devotion issue, although Sunstone gloves still give 16 Insightful PRR.

4 Piece Winter for Artifact PRR and 10% HP, because I don't wanna get one shot by dooms on r10
  • Helmet, Fire Shield Cold
  • Boots, Ins Con, Quality Con, Fort save
  • Belt, Insightful PRR, bit of AC
  • Trinket / Cloak. Swap between for spell absorb.


3 Piece Hruit for Wisdom, DCs and Crit Chance
  • Gloves, THTH spell absorb, MRR, pinch of Quality Potency
  • Necklace, Fire power and crit, 10% efficiency
  • Armour, HAMP, fort, PRR


MISC Gear
  • Dread Caster Staff, Exceptional Crit, Exceptional DCs, Exceptional wisdom, and Affirmation
  • Goggles, PN Spell Focus, Insightful Spell Focus
  • Ring1, Onyx, Profane Spell Focus, Ins Wis, Profane +2 stats
  • Ring2, Slavelords, devotion critical, Wisdom, Quality Wisdom
  • Bracers, Dread Artifact, Sacred +2 DCs, and Positive or Fire Crit damage


Augments
  • Pomura's for 5% Crit
  • GH DC +2 DC bonuses on Conjuration, Evocation, Necromancy, and Enchantment
  • Unconscious Range Aug from Dread
  • Festive Wisdom, Festive Con
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Re: u55 DC Cleric Gear Set-up
Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:26pm
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WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 3:31am:
Hey ya'll, am looking for feedback on this gear set-up. I don't have spell pen lives on this toon but I have all the Epic PLs. No quality spell focus in my current set up. I like the Winter belt a lot so the Black Satin is out. I suppose I could work in Spinneret if I got a +1 reaper DC bonus on the piggie. My goggles are basically just giving 1 DC but I don't see a better use for the slot. Another thing I wish I wasn't missing is Insightful Devotion. I suppose I could use goggles for that as a swap, or make a trinket with it. There's probably some world where I take off the Slavelords slot and run Sunstones. I suppose that would be the fix to get the quality 2 DC in, but perma-slotting spell absorb is just nice QOL. Not sure how to keep the 4 piece winter set though if Black Satin comes on. (I guess a crappy ring?). I suppose swapping artifact to ring and then putting on winter bracers would give a slightly higher vitality value. If I wanted to support light damage it seems like dropping down to 2 piece Winter is the right move---put on a Crest of St. Markus. This would also solve the devotion issue, although Sunstone gloves still give 16 Insightful PRR.

4 Piece Winter for Artifact PRR and 10% HP, because I don't wanna get one shot by dooms on r10
  • Helmet, Fire Shield Cold
  • Boots, Ins Con, Quality Con, Fort save
  • Belt, Insightful PRR, bit of AC
  • Trinket / Cloak. Swap between for spell absorb.


3 Piece Hruit for Wisdom, DCs and Crit Chance
  • Gloves, THTH spell absorb, MRR, pinch of Quality Potency
  • Necklace, Fire power and crit, 10% efficiency
  • Armour, HAMP, fort, PRR


MISC Gear
  • Dread Caster Staff, Exceptional Crit, Exceptional DCs, Exceptional wisdom, and Affirmation
  • Goggles, PN Spell Focus, Insightful Spell Focus
  • Ring1, Onyx, Profane Spell Focus, Ins Wis, Profane +2 stats
  • Ring2, Slavelords, devotion critical, Wisdom, Quality Wisdom
  • Bracers, Dread Artifact, Sacred +2 DCs, and Positive or Fire Crit damage


Augments
  • Pomura's for 5% Crit
  • GH DC +2 DC bonuses on Conjuration, Evocation, Necromancy, and Enchantment
  • Unconscious Range Aug from Dread
  • Festive Wisdom, Festive Con




What are your DCs with this setup?

Do you have any of the Wiz, Cleric, Bard, or Sorc PLs for DCs?
  


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Re: u55 DC Cleric Gear Set-up
Reply #2 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:23am
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Head-Meat wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:26pm:
What are your DCs with this setup?


104 Necro
-- Good enough for low fort mobs but I'm not using Destruction / Slay living a ton.

107 Evocation --> 110 Evocation using Reaper boost on Implosion --> 112 Aureon's boost
-- Celestial Bombardment is like no fail knockdown since it is checked against strength/dex three times. Sunburst (Sun Domain, since I have no points in Divine disciple) is a reflex save for blind cc. Soundburst on fort save. No reason to take burst of glacial wrath because you have this.

101 Enchant
-- Reapers have low saves so Greater Command is no fail. For despairs I have energy drain, but really I'm switching over to healing at that point since the dedicated DC caster is probably working it and not trying to hold the pack.

101 Conjuration
-- Cometfall works well on some targets with low reflex.

Head-Meat wrote on Jul 16th, 2022 at 12:26pm:
Do you have any of the Wiz, Cleric, Bard, or Sorc PLs for DCs?


+6 wisdom tome
no heroic completionist
1 sorc life
1 cleric life
8-slot filigree only
1 wizard past life so I can take the feat for generic DC
2 human racials for 1 wisdom

So that's missing 4-5 generic DCs and then 2 Evocation and 2 Conjuration. I'm seeing how attached I feel to the build. It was fun doing EPLs on it. I guess 7 DCs if I work in Black Satin belt. The necro would probably feel much better with 7 more DCs.

AP-wise I have 41 in Radiant Servant, 6 in Vistani (deflect arrows), 23 in Warpriest (10% HP bonus), 6 in falconry (sprint boost). I'm sure I could squeeze out some more DCs there but the toon is mostly for holding other people's nutsacks. If I want to compete for kills I'll go hop on my sorc. If the group needs dps I bring sorc. If the group needs heals and some CC I'll bring this.
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Re: u55 DC Cleric Gear Set-up
Reply #3 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:05pm
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104 Necro
-- Good enough for low fort mobs but I'm not using Destruction / Slay living a ton.

107 Evocation --> 110 Evocation using Reaper boost on Implosion --> 112 Aureon's boost
-- Celestial Bombardment is like no fail knockdown since it is checked against strength/dex three times. Sunburst (Sun Domain, since I have no points in Divine disciple) is a reflex save for blind cc. Soundburst on fort save. No reason to take burst of glacial wrath because you have this.

101 Enchant
-- Reapers have low saves so Greater Command is no fail. For despairs I have energy drain, but really I'm switching over to healing at that point since the dedicated DC caster is probably working it and not trying to hold the pack.

101 Conjuration
-- Cometfall works well on some targets with low reflex.


+6 wisdom tome
no heroic completionist
1 sorc life
1 cleric life
8-slot filigree only
1 wizard past life so I can take the feat for generic DC
2 human racials for 1 wisdom

So that's missing 4-5 generic DCs and then 2 Evocation and 2 Conjuration. I'm seeing how attached I feel to the build. It was fun doing EPLs on it. I guess 7 DCs if I work in Black Satin belt. The necro would probably feel much better with 7 more DCs.

AP-wise I have 41 in Radiant Servant, 6 in Vistani (deflect arrows), 23 in Warpriest (10% HP bonus), 6 in falconry (sprint boost). I'm sure I could squeeze out some more DCs there but the toon is mostly for holding other people's nutsacks. If I want to compete for kills I'll go hop on my sorc. If the group needs dps I bring sorc. If the group needs heals and some CC I'll bring this.


Still seems low. I got to 121 or 123 on evo as a Dc Druid, and cleric has a higher potential by a few DCs.

I do have all PLs and sent slots. So that’s part of it. I was still missing litany Aug and +2 stat helm. But, I think you should be over 110 for sure. Which domain did you use?


  


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Re: u55 DC Cleric Gear Set-up
Reply #4 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 1:10pm
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Here’s the breakdown of the dc Druid build I tried before I went nuker:


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Wisdom 104:
18 Base
7 Level-up
8 Tome
2 Racial completionist
0 Dragonborn enhancements
4 Season’s herald enhancements
4 Feydark illusionist enhancements
1 Falconry enhancements
1 Aasimar racial past lives
1 Human racial past lives
2 Class completionist
5 Dire thaumaturge
2 Spirit boon (primal avatar destiny tree - tier 2)
1 Glitter of fame (fatesinger destiny tree - core 3)
1 Arcane resonance (fatesinger destiny tree - tier 4)
0 Great wisdom feats
2 Guild airship bonus from Floating rock garden
2 Yugoloth potion
2 Long lasting elixir of owl’s knowledge
2 Alchemical bonus from Legendary alchemical large shield
0 Reaper ability boost from helm
2 Profane bonus from Essence of the epic litany of the dead
6 Insightful bonus from Cannith crafted goggles
3 Quality bonus from Legendary chains
8 Sentient filigrees (4 in weapon, 4 in artifact)
3 Artifact bonus from Autumn set
14 Enhancement bonus from Band of diani ir'wynarn (bracers)
2 Diamond of festive wisdom
1 Exceptional bonus from Globe of true imperial blood

Evocation DC 124:
10 Base
9 Spell level
47 Wisdom
3 Epic spell focus evocation
1 Past life arcane initiate
3 Sorcerer past lives
2 Embolden spell
4 Scion of water
3 Fatesinger destiny tree cores
3 The magic of music (fatesinger destiny tree - tier 3)
3 Mastering the strings (fatesinger destiny tree - tier 5)
1 Ballad of the ages (fatesinger destiny tree - tier 5)
1 Guild airship bonus from Archwizard
4 Dire thaumaturge
1 Hierophant (season’s herald)
1 Strength of the solstice (season’s herald)
3 True power (dragonborn enhancement)
6 Evocation focus from Cannith crafted goggles
3 Insightful evocation focus from Cannith crafted goggles
2 Quality spell focus mastery from Band of diani ir'wynarn
2 Profane spell focus from Legendary shattered onyx
2 Sacred spell focus from Gloryborne gloves
3 Artifact bonus from Autumn set
2 Otto’s irrevocable power set
2 Eye of the beholder set
1 Lunar magic set
2 Topaz of greater evocation


I think there are 3-5 more DCs possible on a cleric from enhancement trees/capstone/domains.
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Reply #5 - Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:11pm
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Anything Cleric can do Fvs does just better.



Turn undead?
Have 3 single-target instakills to rotate?

Cool
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Turn undead?
Have 3 single-target instakills to rotate?

Cool


did you just unironically write "turn undead" as a flex?

  

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Reply #8 - Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:54am
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Cleric DCs:

Between capstone and enh in DD and death domain, cleric gets +7 necro or evo.

Compare Druid: +3 evo

Compare Fvs: +6 evo, +5 necro.

However, FVS has the -2 save aura. So, up close, you get effectively +1 evo over cleric and equal necro. This, imo, applies mainly to implosion. Fvs basically get +1 on implosion.

  


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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 17th, 2022 at 11:11pm:
Anything Cleric can do Fvs does just better.


Level 9 spell slots.

  

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Level 9 spell slots.




True.

Good point. The two newer spells only make that more relevant.
  


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True.

Good point. The two newer spells only make that more relevant.



Fvs casting speed. Your arguments are invalid.
  

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Fvs casting speed. Your arguments are invalid.


A Favored Soul has same casting speed and casting cooldown as a Wizard or Cleric.
  

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To be objective about it, I do think FvS is probably a little better for R10 dailies, but in a raid situation you want True Resurrection.

FvS is a better healer and a better nuker than cleric but not at the same time---FvS has to specialize a bit more.

Cleric is flexible so eventually I'll probably settle into a FvS setup I like but ATM I love the spell slots.

Energy drain is underrated as a dps spell.
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A Favored Soul has same casting speed and casting cooldown as a Wizard or Cleric.



True. It's only the extra SP that fvs share with sorc
  


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Ok.. I'm looking at DC gear because of this, and I found out that I don't have a L. Black Satin... Now, I have to farm one, and I hate that quest. I blame WFB. Just so you know.

Let's see how many runs it takes..

My quick search showed me that there are only about 3 NON-ARTIFACT slots you can use for +2 quality DC. Ring, Belt, and Orb. I have the ring. I doubt I'll use an orb. But that belt is a good item to have.


EDIT: j/k. I thought it was in Smash and Burn. Magma isn't bad.

EDIT2: 1st run. Second reroll.
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A Favored Soul has same casting speed and casting cooldown as a Wizard or Cleric.


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Alex DeLarge wrote on Jul 18th, 2022 at 12:47am:
did you just unironically write "turn undead" as a flex?



To be fair- Death Domain Cleric can effectively turn undead in R10.
  
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To be fair- Death Domain Cleric can effectively turn undead in R10.



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Energy drain is underrated as a dps spell.


Energy drain and death domain necrotic ray bby.
  
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