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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #25 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:00am	Print Post
	apep wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 7:46am: The edit button or the token? The user id. You really think Jerry has any clue how to decipher the token? It's a hashcode, calculated using a key and the userinfo, it's meant to be secure, not cracked by reading the source code. To be able to translate it, you'd have to know what it's eaten.


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apep Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 244 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2011	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #26 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:09am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:00am: The user id. You really think Jerry has any clue how to decipher the token? It's a hashcode, calculated using a key and the userinfo, it's meant to be secure, not cracked by reading the source code. To be able to translate it, you'd have to know what it's eaten. Or send it to someone at Turbine that knows where the token is stored server side... if any of those are left. A server shouldn't have to reconstruct access tokens; it has to store them in case one gets leaked, so that it can invalidate it. The 27th tag in the head section is a script tag. It is after the link tag which specifies the favicon and before a group of script tags linking to yui components. Near the end of it, there are variables, one is named SECURITYTOKEN and another named LOGGEDIN, which compares to current user id to 0 to see if the client is logged in.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #27 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:14am	Print Post
	Angry wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 7:43am: Please show me this, as I could not find it Do you need a screen shot with the Edit button circled and a large arrow pointing it out?

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #28 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:15am	Print Post
	note pad ++ Find LOGGEDIN = 12345 Replace in all opened documents with LOGGEDIN = 352519 Done in 20 seconds. About the same amount of time it takes to add/remove edit butons. *edit. For the sake of clarity, I was banned from the council the day DDO PC Transparency started posting his text based leaks.
	« Last Edit: May 21^st, 2015 at 8:21am by Munkenmo »
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Lemming Waterworks Kobold Offline Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 15^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #29 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:15am	Print Post
	/Tinfoil hat on Some Turbine fanboi from the PC leaked the info with the edit buttons to get Munk banned. Or was it Sev himself?


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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #30 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:16am	Print Post
	apep wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:09am: Or send it to someone at Turbine that knows where the token is stored server side... if any of those are left. A server shouldn't have to reconstruct access tokens; it has to store them in case one gets leaked, so that it can invalidate it. The 27th tag in the head section is a script tag. It is after the link tag which specifies the favicon and before a group of script tags linking to yui components. Near the end of it, there are variables, one is named SECURITYTOKEN and another named LOGGEDIN, which compares to current user id to 0 to see if the client is logged in. Well, that would be smart... but I highly doubt they'd go to the trouble


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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #31 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:24am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:15am: *edit. For the sake of clarity, I was banned from the council the day DDO PC Transparency started posting his text based leaks. So it has nothing to do with you. Sad to see that you got banned for someone else's actions honestly, you were one of the few members that I liked and that was not a yes-man, like many in there. I can see tons of people just ass-licking or approving/suggesting changes based on their personal agenda.
	« Last Edit: May 21^st, 2015 at 8:24am by Shuy »

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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3481 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #32 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:28am	Print Post
	Lemming wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:15am: /Tinfoil hat on Some Turbine fanboi from the PC leaked the info with the edit buttons to get Munk banned. Or was it Sev himself?� What a twist!


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Angry Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1699 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #33 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:28am	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:14am: Do you need a screen shot with the Edit button circled and a large arrow pointing it out? I was looking for anything pointing to Munk in the source code.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4343 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #34 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:28am	Print Post
	Shuy wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:24am: suggesting changes based on their personal agenda. I was just as guilty of doing this as anybody else.

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Shuy Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 613 Joined: Jun 29^th, 2013	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #35 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:37am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:28am: I was just as guilty of doing this as anybody else. I did not see this in your replies. What I saw were some interesting solutions to problems that they created themselves (or problems that don't exist at all but they believe they are).


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Ah Pook Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 314159265 Posts: 1439 Joined: Mar 10^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #36 - May 21^st, 2015 at 8:46am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 8:28am: I was just as guilty of doing this as anybody else. Most of us prefer your agenda over, say, Cletus's.

	Daggertooth wrote on Apr 14^th, 2017 at 6:52pm: I'm pretty fucking sure I am a special snowflake. Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 8:32am: Laugh it up, funny man.
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Artorias Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1212 Joined: Mar 21^st, 2015	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #37 - May 21^st, 2015 at 9:00am	Print Post
	So, stuff leaked and shit happened that can be briefly summed up as: 1- Jelly bans munk 2- Jelly takes a screen of the ban 3- Jelly faps on the pic witch EXTREME PREJUDICE Like any good deviant he decides to take things to next level according to his "bro" Sev and procedes to banning to whole PC. Is that correct? Did I get it right? If their security was as tight as their asses there wouldn't even been a leak in the first place. .


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #38 - May 21^st, 2015 at 9:06am	Print Post
	I like this. Jerry accused us of being tin foil hat conspiracy nuts, and now we can finally deliver on his promise!

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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #39 - May 21^st, 2015 at 9:27am	Print Post
	Aside from the ban issue.... I am finding it hard to understand why they even have a Player's Council. All they are doing is what they used to do on the public forums, just with less people giving input. They post what they want to do, people get all bent out of shape because their build will suck afterwards, they bitch, and ultimately Turbine does whatever they want to anyway. What is the big mystery?


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #40 - May 21^st, 2015 at 9:33am	Print Post
	Also, fwiw, when people in game are telling me "hey kluege, munk told me blah blah blah about rangers, so you should re-roll as pure or 14/6", or whatever. That probably means more than just me is hearing about it and some not so friendly folks are probably also telling Turbine folks.... so, it may not be from sources you are assuming, but from big mouthed individuals blabbing how much they know and where it came from. Although, I could also be way off....


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Durk The Deranged Offline I've got a secret! Posts: 705 Location: The Harbor Joined: May 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #41 - May 21^st, 2015 at 10:10am	Print Post
	Maybe it wasn't Munk, he deserves the benefit of doubt.� I liked all his views on the PC. I do find it strange though that DDO PC Transparency said he was talking to Strake to find a different way to post what he had.� The next day Strake uploads and posts all the html files that were modified to remove names.� I am not sure which is more likely, that someone forgot to remove that userid, or that someone went through the work to change it and Strake didn't notice either. If it wasn't Munk I would expect Munk to be furious and screaming at DDO PC Transparency or whoever gave them to Strake in order to blame him, not to mention Strakes view of being used to blame Munk.� If I was used like that and knew it wasn't Munk I would be laying down the banhammer. Maybe DDO PC Transparency will post something new since Munk was removed.
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #42 - May 21^st, 2015 at 10:44am	Print Post
	Durk wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 10:10am: Maybe DDO PC Transparency will post something new since Munk was removed. If their agenda was to "frame" Munk, I doubt it.

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Sasha Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 818 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #43 - May 21^st, 2015 at 10:49am	Print Post
	That kinda sucks, can't say I'm surprised tho. I wouldn't have noticed about those edit buttons if people didn't mention them here either.


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madman Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 118 Location: da South Joined: Oct 13^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #44 - May 21^st, 2015 at 11:13am	Print Post
	Curious.� Yeah it may very well be a frame job. The edit button could be damning, but the culprit missed something.� Munk was offline.� The source shows him offline and the radio button by his name is grey not green. Chai and InsanityIsYourFriend were both showing online for the screen grabs on the page I looked at. Looked at page 1 of the manyshot thread. Edit: Of course it could have been edited to make him look offline, but where is the fun in that?
	« Last Edit: May 21^st, 2015 at 11:21am by madman »

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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 9984 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #45 - May 21^st, 2015 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	madman wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 11:13am: Curious.� Yeah it may very well be a frame job. The edit button could be damning, but the culprit missed something.� Munk was offline.� The source shows him offline and the radio button by his name is grey not green. Chai and InsanityIsYourFriend were both showing online for the screen grabs on the page I looked at. Looked at page 1 of the manyshot thread. Edit: Of course it could have been edited to make him look offline, but where is the fun in that? Sadly, the online radio button is live... I looked at the code of the page, and that bit points straight to the official website... So basically you see who is online on the official website at the time you open the page in Vaultleaks. ( yeah I know I keep saying I sucks at coding... It just means that I suck at pissing code, not that I can't read and understand it )

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Sasha Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 818 Joined: Apr 13^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #46 - May 21^st, 2015 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 12:45pm: Sadly, the online radio button is live.. Damn.. I was all ready to play detective.


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madman Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 118 Location: da South Joined: Oct 13^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #47 - May 21^st, 2015 at 1:09pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on May 21^st, 2015 at 12:45pm: Sadly, the online radio button is live... I looked at the code of the page, and that bit points straight to the official website... So basically you see who is online on the official website at the time you open the page in Vaultleaks. ( yeah I know I keep saying I sucks at coding... It just means that I suck at pissing code, not that I can't read and understand it ) Well that sucks I was going by insanityisyour friend being online on the http://www.ddovault.com/Vault/Manyshot%20and%2010K%20Stars%20-%20Page%201.htm post 18� while being offline on http://www.ddovault.com/Vault/Real-life%20Players%20Council%20Meetup%20%20-%20Pa... post 15 at the same time in thinking it did not post back to the mbs.
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KilgoreTrout Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 214 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #48 - May 21^st, 2015 at 1:16pm	Print Post
	Also, only someone at Turbine and Munk would have access to his session ID. I think we can pen this down to Munk and Strake slipping up.


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: Jerry the Banner Reply #49 - May 21^st, 2015 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	Whoever posted pcouncil stuff made it to� totally backfire. Honestly without munk there... You guys prolly saw all the stuff from those forums, be honest and tell beside eth munk and sometimes cetus, who else actually gave any kind proper advice to devs on how to improve this almost dead game? But who cares in the end
	« Last Edit: May 21^st, 2015 at 1:46pm by Lelouch »

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